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God is in the Neurons
Topic Started: Sep 26 2011, 06:49 PM (1,934 Views)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPEdDcs_8ZQ

This video is just epic. Anyone else understand the scrolling definition of "Atheism" at the right hand side at around 18:30 to 18:40?

I really can't do anything to explain this video. Just watch it. Objectively watch it.
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WOW! That video was just.........increbile. Best Video I've seen really informative.
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Great video.

I specifically liked the fact that it wasn't a religion bashing 22 minutes, it was very informative and makes you think.

One thing I want to know more about is that the narrator said that only one half of your brain can function completely normally, but when he goes in depth he separates what each side does.

Also, I sort of laughed out loud when he referenced that human nature needs a narrator to find meaning, yet this video had one, not to contradict anything I just sort of laughed.


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Yeah, me and my friend Nick were so hyped about it it got shown in our AP Psychology class.
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Athene wins is one of my favorite comedy channels lol
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Damn, that was good, Necifix. Awesome post. I love the video.
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This is all quite agreeable. I wouldn't say any of it is incorrect, but the video seems to present itself as if we empirically understand everything there is to know about the brain. I guess it does mention "what we currently know", which is admittedly a lot.
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There's also this. According to the string theory, God is some musical resonance of the universe. I find string theory pretty mind blowing. Although I disagree with both I can appreciate the depth to them.

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Oct 13 2011, 11:26 PM


There's also this. According to the string theory, God is some musical resonance of the universe. I find string theory pretty mind blowing. Although I disagree with both I can appreciate the depth to them.
I like to assume the universe is a never-ending ocean of big-bangs. Though it doesn't make much sense. Is it really viable to disregard cause-effect?
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Your theory isn't really to far from his multiverse theory. He says that there are many universes, like little bubbles, that branch off and make more bubbles (universes). In the grand scheme of things, we humans really are nothing. Reminds of this quote from an astronaut when he landed on the moon.

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There's also this. According to the string theory, God is some musical resonance of the universe. I find string theory pretty mind blowing. Although I disagree with both I can appreciate the depth to them.
I like to assume the universe is a never-ending ocean of big-bangs. Though it doesn't make much sense. Is it really viable to disregard cause-effect?
Cause and effect would have to be messed up either way. The reason being a reaction always has to occur for something else to occur yet, you have no idea where to start and where to backtrack to get there (the beginning).


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It's just hard to believe a universe which seemingly operates on the basis of cause and effect could be explained to have started with <insert assumed chaos here>. Of course it's a mystery, but things don't just pop up out of nowhere. You also can't use god to explain the beginning because then you have to explain where god came from which means suggesting god is utterly pointless.
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It's just hard to believe a universe which seemingly operates on the basis of cause and effect could be explained to have started with <insert assumed chaos here>. Of course it's a mystery, but things don't just pop up out of nowhere. You also can't use god to explain the beginning because then you have to explain where god came from which means suggesting god is utterly pointless.
It's very interesting to think about really. You have God on this hand who can't exist, but you also have one of the most sound scientific principals known to man on the other, yet it seems it can't hold true either.

haha as a note every time I read one of your posts you remind me of what I would of posted.


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It's just hard to believe a universe which seemingly operates on the basis of cause and effect could be explained to have started with <insert assumed chaos here>. Of course it's a mystery, but things don't just pop up out of nowhere. You also can't use god to explain the beginning because then you have to explain where god came from which means suggesting god is utterly pointless.
God, well in most religions, means eternal. Eternal means no beginning and no end. Infinite means a beginning, but no end. God would be an example of eternal and heaven of infinite. Emphermal means a beginning and an end. Our universe would be emphermal. Time as we know it started theoretically at the big bang. Before our universe, in religious theoretics, there was no "time".

It's hard to grasp but it explains itself a bit if you get more into string theory. In a 2d pond, a fish can see and move sideways. There's no height dimension, the thought of such is propsterous for thr fish. Us, looking down, are technically invisble to this fish but we know for a fact we exist and can impact the lives of the fish how we see fit (kind of like how ghosts can as well - just an example not nessicarily true). That would be the true definition of "invisble".

There can be another dimension that humans can't grasp and any suggestion of it as heretical. But there can be another dimension and other beings looking down and effecting us and just the thought of that is outrageous but they would know for a fact they exist impacting our lives how they see fit.

Again this is just another theory. There's no real theories of God or the answer to everything or they wouldn't be theories. Just disputing the fact that the theory of God isn't hogwash and undebatable.

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Most people accept that a god cannot exist within physical reality. The universe we know ourself to exist within abides by cause and effect. Making up a dimension where crazy things can happen with no logical explanation doesn't solve anything.

We shouldn't make absolute claims because the opposite may be possible in another universe? First recognise that saying 'you cannot make any absolute claim about truth' is an absolute claim about truth - instant hypocrisy, it doesn't work . 'God may exist in another dimension' is a self-contradicting statement because the principle behind it is that no truth can be stated.

Next analyse the word 'god', defined as an immaterial intelligent omnipotence. This cannot be applied to a dimension we know nothing about. For example, if I show you a video of incomprehensible static how could you tell me you're seeing the script for Hamlet scrolling across the screen? If it were true then the video would not be incomprehensible. We cannot create X dimension claiming to know nothing about its contents then immediately assume god exists within such a dimension (obvious contradiction). Suggesting that other dimensions with god may exist evokes the counter argument that these things may not exist. Absolutely no point in arguing this if there's no evidence either way, although the impossible burden of truth resides exclusively upon the affirmative side.

You cannot claim the universe operates on a set of principles then make an exception to explain how it started. Disregarding cause-effect in favour of gods is like carefully constructing an argument outlining why language is meaningless.

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